That is just absolutely vile.

Thanks for informing us of this article. I had to calm down a bit after reading it.

Those so called “professionals” who don’t give their patients a chance, or actively try to prevent their patients from receiving the treatments they desire are dishonest and a disgrace. They are faith imposing medical posers wielding their beliefs as weapons against those forced to trust them.

Thanks for informing us of this article. I had to calm down a bit after reading it.

Those so called “professionals” who don’t give their patients a chance, or actively try to prevent their patients from receiving the treatments they require due to their sacred imaginings are dishonest and a disgrace. They are faith imposing medical posers wielding their beliefs as weapons against those forced to trust them.

This is completely reprehensible. I think he should be severely reprimanded and if he repeats something like this, should lose his license to practice medicine. He has no right to push his viewpoint on someone else, especially someone in that position. What if he was the only doctor available? She’d have no choice. He gets to decide whether or not she remains pregnant. Absolute crap.

I’d like to echo the sentiments of others. This is truly disturbing. I’ll never understand how some people can believe that a conception resulting from violence is somehow a gift from God.

I am a member of the Secular Medical Forum which seeks to combat these practices withon our professions - I had to calm down after reading this. Please see our site at :

http://www.secularmedicalforum.org.uk/

For my second paper I was thinking about writing it on the ethical views of “The day after pill”. Now I know it seems weird for a guy to be writing on this subject but I was thinking of it like this. I’ve taken this class before, sadly enough, and have already written a paper on Stem cell research. For lack of a better word, i was bored by the time I got to the second page. So, this time around i’m deciding to write it on something that I have NO prior knowledge about! Plus, you never know when that pill might come in handy for a young guy like me.
Dont get me wrong, I’m not pro-life, or for abortion. I believe that the women has the choice whether or not to have the baby. I’m a man and I handle my business, so whether she has it or not I’m going to be there. But back to the topic. What ethical laws present themselves when talking about Birth control? This is what really interest me! What do you guys think?

…What ethical laws present themselves when talking about Birth control? This is what really interest me! What do you guys think?

I think that a crucial strand in church-power is the oppression of women, including attempts to control female sexuality and fertility.

Religion or not, it wasn’t that kid’s fault that he was concieved from rape and he shouldn’t be denied a chance to live because of that.

Religion or not, it wasn’t that kid’s fault that he was concieved from rape and he shouldn’t be denied a chance to live because of that.

Well an embryo isn’t a human being. It doesn’t have a nervous system or consciousness. It is no more complex than the cells that die when you scratch your nose. At the end of the day, I think a woman’s body is her own; period. She should not have to be pregnant, carry the child to term, and have a being out in the world that is half of her genes. Making a child is an amazing thing where two people literally come together. It should not be stolen.

Well an embryo isn’t a human being. It doesn’t have a nervous system or consciousness. It is no more complex than the cells that die when you scratch your nose.

i do agree that you could classify the skin cells on your nose equally as “complex” as embryonic cells. however, to hold them as absolutely equal is a poor use of reason and semantics (complex). there is no denying that if unhampered, the embryo WILL mature into a living, conscious human (bar miscarriage). you cannot say the same for skin cell and therefore cannot equate the two in a discussion of whether or not it is humane to remove or kill embryonic cells

… there is no denying that if unhampered, the embryo WILL mature into a living, conscious human (bar miscarriage). you cannot say the same for skin cell and therefore cannot equate the two in a discussion of whether or not it is humane to remove or kill embryonic cells

True, and much more important is the meaning of the pregnancy, which is entirely different from an itchy nose. “Meaning” here is the sum of the significance of the event in the mind of the woman, and of any other people involved with her. Pregnancy is a hugely meaningful phenomenon for most women, and abortion is a dangerous event for her emotional well-being. Of course the significance of pregnancy resulting from rape is likely to be very different from other pregnancies, which will be very likely to change the emotional meaning of abortion, but to dismiss abortion as a meaningless event like “scratching your nose” is to deny human nature.

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